Subject
Re: SIGHTING: Signs & Symbols in New Yorker story
From
Date
Body
theoretically, it could have been good or even great but was awful, but was
also instantly suspect, yet to be fair, giving it a read to see what was
up, one then wonders at that magazine even publishing it
same magazine that published VN??? they don't even get the story or images
(e.g., reclining man viewed from window, elbows up) (its images inseparable
from everything else about the story, the *writing*)
snapshot:
"Across the narrow yard where the rain tinkled in the dark against some
battered ash cans, windows were blandly alight and in one of them a
blacktrousered man with his bare elbows raised could be seen lying supine
on a untidy bed."
Barrie Karp
--
Barrie Karp, Ph.D., Philosophy
barriekarp@gmail.com
New York City!
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Jansy <jansy@aetern.us> wrote:
> *Barrie Karp:* *There's a "takeoff" (or reflection on) in today's (May
> 28, 2012) The New Yorker by Lorrie Moore in the fiction section on VN's
> famous story "Signs and Symbols." I only read the first sentence of the
> Lorrie Moore story so far (and looked at the picture/illustration) and
> realized it. *
>
> *Jansy Mello*: A "takeoff"? Or is it a "takefrom" without soaring? What a
> strange exercise. Like Barrie, I didn't read more than the first or a
> third sentence. Is this a regular literary practice?
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
>
> All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
>
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vladimir Mylnikov <vmylnikov@yahoo.com>wrote:
> honestly i don't think it is worth reading - i have read two paragraphs -
> plagiarizm plus "takeoff" should be better than the original but Lorrie
> Moore is obviously not
> thanks for posting
> vladimir m
>
> *From:* NABOKV-L <NABOKV-L@HOLYCROSS.EDU>
> *To:* NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* [NABOKV-L] SIGHTING: Signs & Symbols in New Yorker story
> **
> There's a "takeoff" (or reflection on) in today's (May 28, 2012) *The
> New Yorker* by Lorrie Moore in the fiction section on VN's famous story
> "Signs and Symbols." I only read the first sentence of the Lorrie Moore
> story so far (and looked at the picture/illustration) and realized it.
> The Lorrie Moore story is attached (I have not read it yet).
>
> Barrie
> Barrie Karp, Ph.D., Philosophy
> barriekarp@gmail.com**New York City!
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com/> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
> All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
> ****
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
>
> ****All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
>
Search archive with Google:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en
Contact the Editors: mailto:nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu
Visit Zembla: http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm
View Nabokv-L policies: http://web.utk.edu/~sblackwe/EDNote.htm
Visit "Nabokov Online Journal:" http://www.nabokovonline.com
Manage subscription options: http://listserv.ucsb.edu/
also instantly suspect, yet to be fair, giving it a read to see what was
up, one then wonders at that magazine even publishing it
same magazine that published VN??? they don't even get the story or images
(e.g., reclining man viewed from window, elbows up) (its images inseparable
from everything else about the story, the *writing*)
snapshot:
"Across the narrow yard where the rain tinkled in the dark against some
battered ash cans, windows were blandly alight and in one of them a
blacktrousered man with his bare elbows raised could be seen lying supine
on a untidy bed."
Barrie Karp
--
Barrie Karp, Ph.D., Philosophy
barriekarp@gmail.com
New York City!
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Jansy <jansy@aetern.us> wrote:
> *Barrie Karp:* *There's a "takeoff" (or reflection on) in today's (May
> 28, 2012) The New Yorker by Lorrie Moore in the fiction section on VN's
> famous story "Signs and Symbols." I only read the first sentence of the
> Lorrie Moore story so far (and looked at the picture/illustration) and
> realized it. *
>
> *Jansy Mello*: A "takeoff"? Or is it a "takefrom" without soaring? What a
> strange exercise. Like Barrie, I didn't read more than the first or a
> third sentence. Is this a regular literary practice?
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
>
> All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
>
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vladimir Mylnikov <vmylnikov@yahoo.com>wrote:
> honestly i don't think it is worth reading - i have read two paragraphs -
> plagiarizm plus "takeoff" should be better than the original but Lorrie
> Moore is obviously not
> thanks for posting
> vladimir m
>
> *From:* NABOKV-L <NABOKV-L@HOLYCROSS.EDU>
> *To:* NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* [NABOKV-L] SIGHTING: Signs & Symbols in New Yorker story
> **
> There's a "takeoff" (or reflection on) in today's (May 28, 2012) *The
> New Yorker* by Lorrie Moore in the fiction section on VN's famous story
> "Signs and Symbols." I only read the first sentence of the Lorrie Moore
> story so far (and looked at the picture/illustration) and realized it.
> The Lorrie Moore story is attached (I have not read it yet).
>
> Barrie
> Barrie Karp, Ph.D., Philosophy
> barriekarp@gmail.com**New York City!
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com/> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
> All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
> ****
> Google Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/> Visit AdaOnline<http://www.ada.auckland.ac.nz/> View
> NSJ Ada Annotations <http://vnjapan.org/main/ada/index.html> Temporary
> L-Soft Search the archive<https://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A0=NABOKV-L&X=58B9943B29972AFF64&Y=nabokv-l%40utk.edu>
>
> ****All private editorial communications are read by both co-editors.
>
Search archive with Google:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en
Contact the Editors: mailto:nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu
Visit Zembla: http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm
View Nabokv-L policies: http://web.utk.edu/~sblackwe/EDNote.htm
Visit "Nabokov Online Journal:" http://www.nabokovonline.com
Manage subscription options: http://listserv.ucsb.edu/