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Correction: vocational should of course read vacational in my quotation
from VNs letter.
AB
From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On Behalf
Of A. Bouazza
Sent: zaterdag 5 oktober 2013 12:38
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives? and Colette, incest
In his January 18, 1952 letter, Edmund Wilson asked, What do you think of
Colette? Ive been reading her a little for the first time and really dont
like it much. The books about Chéri repel me.
On January 24, 1952, VN responded: You ask me what I think of Colette.
Cest pour les gosses. Second rate vocational literature. Not worth speaking
about.
The Nabokov-Wilson Letters (Revised & Expanded edition), pp. 299-300.
A. Bouazza
From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On Behalf
Of Carolyn Kunin
Sent: donderdag 3 oktober 2013 9:43
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives? and Colette, incest
But there is no resemblance whatever. By the way has anyone heard any of
Nicholas's music? I have been meaning for some time to look (or listen
rather) into it.
By the way, I have another question which perhaps M. Coutourier can answer.
I have tried to find out in the archives or via google if VN ever expressed
an opinion on le grand ecrivain, Colette. Next to Pushkin, she is my
favorite writer. But of course the search engines seem to think (and they do
seem to think) that you mean the short story. And since no one uses her
former literary names (Willy, de Juvenal) it's impossible.
By the way, if N did not revere la grande dame, he should have. She and
Pushkin are greatly alike. Both had African ancestry - in later years Madame
even sported a red afro - but their temperaments and prose style are also of
one kind.
But here's the kicker. I was at the Musee Colette in St Sauveur en Puisaye
yesterday, and was reminded that when she was in her fifties, she seduced
Juvenal's son Bertrand. He was sixteen, so hardly pederasty. But is this
incest? I doubt it. And why did she do it? The books don't say. Lust
presumably, but I doubt that too. Education sentimentale, peut-etre. Or
revenge or a combination of the two. Qui le sait.
Carolyn
_____
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Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives?
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The photo is of Nicolas Nabokov. Often mistaken for his cousin, and
vice-versa!
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from VNs letter.
AB
From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On Behalf
Of A. Bouazza
Sent: zaterdag 5 oktober 2013 12:38
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives? and Colette, incest
In his January 18, 1952 letter, Edmund Wilson asked, What do you think of
Colette? Ive been reading her a little for the first time and really dont
like it much. The books about Chéri repel me.
On January 24, 1952, VN responded: You ask me what I think of Colette.
Cest pour les gosses. Second rate vocational literature. Not worth speaking
about.
The Nabokov-Wilson Letters (Revised & Expanded edition), pp. 299-300.
A. Bouazza
From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On Behalf
Of Carolyn Kunin
Sent: donderdag 3 oktober 2013 9:43
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives? and Colette, incest
But there is no resemblance whatever. By the way has anyone heard any of
Nicholas's music? I have been meaning for some time to look (or listen
rather) into it.
By the way, I have another question which perhaps M. Coutourier can answer.
I have tried to find out in the archives or via google if VN ever expressed
an opinion on le grand ecrivain, Colette. Next to Pushkin, she is my
favorite writer. But of course the search engines seem to think (and they do
seem to think) that you mean the short story. And since no one uses her
former literary names (Willy, de Juvenal) it's impossible.
By the way, if N did not revere la grande dame, he should have. She and
Pushkin are greatly alike. Both had African ancestry - in later years Madame
even sported a red afro - but their temperaments and prose style are also of
one kind.
But here's the kicker. I was at the Musee Colette in St Sauveur en Puisaye
yesterday, and was reminded that when she was in her fifties, she seduced
Juvenal's son Bertrand. He was sixteen, so hardly pederasty. But is this
incest? I doubt it. And why did she do it? The books don't say. Lust
presumably, but I doubt that too. Education sentimentale, peut-etre. Or
revenge or a combination of the two. Qui le sait.
Carolyn
_____
From: robert roper < <mailto:robertroper@EARTHLINK.NET>
robertroper@EARTHLINK.NET>;
To: < <mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU> NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>;
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Wrong archives?
Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 4:25:47 AM
The photo is of Nicolas Nabokov. Often mistaken for his cousin, and
vice-versa!
On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Jansy Mello wrote:
Another caption and I believe the photograph is not from Vladimir Nabokov!
http://en.ria.ru/world/20130930/183862647/Nabokov-Drama-Gets-US-Debut-after-
89-Years.html
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