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> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Morris <fqmorris@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: NPPF Canto Two--Contrasting butterfly species
>
> A-and don't forget the "azure entrance" outside the "Hawiian bar."
>
> - --- s~Z <keithsz@concentric.net> wrote:
> > Don't forget the Echo Azure mentioned in ADA and pointing back to the
> > reflected azure in the windowpane:
> > http://home.sprintmail.com/~awiner/butterflies/EchoAzure.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
> __________________________________
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Morris <fqmorris@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: NPPF Canto two: Pat Pink?
>
> - --- jbor <jbor@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Who is or was Pat Pink?
>
> Probably a commie fink!
>
> DM
>
>>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:27:30 GMT
> From: "himself" <himself@richardryan.com>
> Subject: Re: P- and N-related Fetishism and Incest
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l@waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l@waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of David Morris
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:44 PM
> > To: Tim Strzechowski; Pynchon-L
> > Subject: Re: P- and N-related Fetishism and Incest
>
> Date: 04 Aug 2003 00:51:15 -0400
> From: Paul Mackin <paul.mackin@verizon.net>
> Subject: NPPF Canto Two--forked paths and reloaded cameras
>
> Has enough attention been focused on the intricate cutting in and out
> between the disaster of Hazel's date and the elder Shade's evening at
> home with the TV, ending with the arrival of the police with the news of
> her death.
>
> Starting at lines 403-4
>
> Your scrutinized your wrist: "It's eight fifteen.
> [And here time forked.} I'll turn it on." . . . .
>
> and concluding at lines 486-7
>
> And a patrol car on our bumpy road
> Came to a crunching stop. Retake,retake!
>
> The phrase "time forked" announces that two narrative will run
> simultaneously, with certain specific events seemingly to be precisely
> coordinated in time. This would be an important enough bit of
> foreshadowing, given what we know is pending in the remainder of the
> book. However there is more, it seems to me. Doesn't the "Retake,
> retake" interjection strongly suggest that somehow the whole course of
> the evening's events might magically be canceled out and made to run an
> alternative course.
>
> Isn't one of the functions of the "Hereafter" sometimes considered to be
> correction of "mistakes" (possibly failures is a better word) that have
> taken place in life. The obvious mistake or failure in the Shade's life
> would be Hazel's unhappiness ending in her early death.
>
> But on to Canto Three.
>
> We hope.
>
> P.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:18:10 -0700
> From: "Glenn Scheper" <glenn_scheper@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: Correction for Glenn Scheper of Pynchon List
>
> Certainly a cordial enough greeting from Dimitri!
> I was afraid my peculiar view might offend him, a
> son, above all others. But I esteem Vladimir from
> the signs I detect as only a handful of other men
> across epochs, including Jesus, our prime example.
>
> I may have been less than a diligent student, but
> my Russian was taught by the US Army, after which
> I was stationed in Germany and never saw it again.
> I count features on strange cyrillic glyphs, with
> so many representing multiple sibilants, so I say,
> now is that one shsh or zh or ts? I read part way
> into a line of text, and like one treading water,
> forget I can float. Then I start verbalizing rules
> for glyphs, like, That can't be B, because B looks
> like D, so is that the B that is silent or half a
> glyph for the vowel BI? I need Hooked on Phonics.
>
> Maybe a schizophrenic minority interpretation is
> the only access to a domain whose referents are
> denied the majority--transcendental to all folks.
>
> Yours truly,
> Glenn Scheper
> http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_scheper/
> glenn_scheper + at + earthlink.net
> Copyleft(!) Forward freely.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Subject: pynchon-l-digest V2 #3463
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:38:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Morris <fqmorris@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: NPPF Canto Two--Contrasting butterfly species
>
> A-and don't forget the "azure entrance" outside the "Hawiian bar."
>
> - --- s~Z <keithsz@concentric.net> wrote:
> > Don't forget the Echo Azure mentioned in ADA and pointing back to the
> > reflected azure in the windowpane:
> > http://home.sprintmail.com/~awiner/butterflies/EchoAzure.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
> __________________________________
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Morris <fqmorris@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: NPPF Canto two: Pat Pink?
>
> - --- jbor <jbor@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Who is or was Pat Pink?
>
> Probably a commie fink!
>
> DM
>
>>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:27:30 GMT
> From: "himself" <himself@richardryan.com>
> Subject: Re: P- and N-related Fetishism and Incest
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l@waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l@waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of David Morris
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:44 PM
> > To: Tim Strzechowski; Pynchon-L
> > Subject: Re: P- and N-related Fetishism and Incest
>
> Date: 04 Aug 2003 00:51:15 -0400
> From: Paul Mackin <paul.mackin@verizon.net>
> Subject: NPPF Canto Two--forked paths and reloaded cameras
>
> Has enough attention been focused on the intricate cutting in and out
> between the disaster of Hazel's date and the elder Shade's evening at
> home with the TV, ending with the arrival of the police with the news of
> her death.
>
> Starting at lines 403-4
>
> Your scrutinized your wrist: "It's eight fifteen.
> [And here time forked.} I'll turn it on." . . . .
>
> and concluding at lines 486-7
>
> And a patrol car on our bumpy road
> Came to a crunching stop. Retake,retake!
>
> The phrase "time forked" announces that two narrative will run
> simultaneously, with certain specific events seemingly to be precisely
> coordinated in time. This would be an important enough bit of
> foreshadowing, given what we know is pending in the remainder of the
> book. However there is more, it seems to me. Doesn't the "Retake,
> retake" interjection strongly suggest that somehow the whole course of
> the evening's events might magically be canceled out and made to run an
> alternative course.
>
> Isn't one of the functions of the "Hereafter" sometimes considered to be
> correction of "mistakes" (possibly failures is a better word) that have
> taken place in life. The obvious mistake or failure in the Shade's life
> would be Hazel's unhappiness ending in her early death.
>
> But on to Canto Three.
>
> We hope.
>
> P.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:18:10 -0700
> From: "Glenn Scheper" <glenn_scheper@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: Correction for Glenn Scheper of Pynchon List
>
> Certainly a cordial enough greeting from Dimitri!
> I was afraid my peculiar view might offend him, a
> son, above all others. But I esteem Vladimir from
> the signs I detect as only a handful of other men
> across epochs, including Jesus, our prime example.
>
> I may have been less than a diligent student, but
> my Russian was taught by the US Army, after which
> I was stationed in Germany and never saw it again.
> I count features on strange cyrillic glyphs, with
> so many representing multiple sibilants, so I say,
> now is that one shsh or zh or ts? I read part way
> into a line of text, and like one treading water,
> forget I can float. Then I start verbalizing rules
> for glyphs, like, That can't be B, because B looks
> like D, so is that the B that is silent or half a
> glyph for the vowel BI? I need Hooked on Phonics.
>
> Maybe a schizophrenic minority interpretation is
> the only access to a domain whose referents are
> denied the majority--transcendental to all folks.
>
> Yours truly,
> Glenn Scheper
> http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_scheper/
> glenn_scheper + at + earthlink.net
> Copyleft(!) Forward freely.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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