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From: "Kenny, Glenn" <gkenny@hfmus.com>
To: "'D. Barton Johnson '" <chtodel@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Dmitri's comments
> Dear Editor,
> Maybe it's because of my relatively young age, or maybe it's because I'm
> from an area of New Jersey where "scumbag" is used as a term of
approbation,
> or whatever, but I'm not at all bothered by D. Nabokov's comments, and if
> anybody thinks they constitute a "tyranny" over this list, then maybe that
> means that the person complaining is too much of a-excuse my vulgar
> language-pussy to stand up to D., or too lame-brained to formulate an
> effective counterargument to his. In my recollection, D. didn't shut a
damn
> thing down, he merely objected, in the strongest possible terms, to some
> fairly lame-ass (excuse my language again) peregrinations. There have been
> some very NOT ad hominem anti-Chaplin arguments made by Ron Rosenbaum that
> kind of bolster both D.'s and V.'s objections to both the man and artist,
> and any true movie lover will tell you that Buster Keaton is the better
man
> than Chaplin in every way but...never mind. D.'s bloodline does not
> constitute any automatic tyranny but does carry an authority of sorts. How
> people on this list respond to it is their business. But to kick and
scream
> and have a tantrum and say that Vladimir Nabokov's son has no place in
this
> group is to merely be petulant in the worst way. And it's funny to recall
> that person in the Pynchon group observing, not so sanguinely, that the
> moderator of this group doesn't allow any flames. I suppose that precludes
> me from suggesting that somebody poke Nat Selleck's fontanel.
>
> Glenn Kenny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Barton Johnson
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Sent: 7/20/2003 4:58 PM
> Subject: Fw: Dmitri's comments
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nat Selleck" <selleck@OPERAMAIL.COM>
> >
> > Could you please post this to the list?
> >
> > Dmitri's tyranny over this list must end. Need we endure his bullying
> > and ad hominem attacks simply out of deference to his bloodline?
> > This goes beyond taking offense at his vulgar language. His tantrums
> > have led, directly or indirectly, to the abrupt cessation of at least
> two
> > interesting lines of scholarly exchange over communism and Charlie
> > Chaplin, Nabokov and homosexuality. If you think that this is
> > acceptable in these cases, how about the slippery slope leading to
> > the ad hominem slamming of the contents of a simple bibliographic
> > posting?
> >
> > Nat Selleck
From: "Kenny, Glenn" <gkenny@hfmus.com>
To: "'D. Barton Johnson '" <chtodel@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Dmitri's comments
> Dear Editor,
> Maybe it's because of my relatively young age, or maybe it's because I'm
> from an area of New Jersey where "scumbag" is used as a term of
approbation,
> or whatever, but I'm not at all bothered by D. Nabokov's comments, and if
> anybody thinks they constitute a "tyranny" over this list, then maybe that
> means that the person complaining is too much of a-excuse my vulgar
> language-pussy to stand up to D., or too lame-brained to formulate an
> effective counterargument to his. In my recollection, D. didn't shut a
damn
> thing down, he merely objected, in the strongest possible terms, to some
> fairly lame-ass (excuse my language again) peregrinations. There have been
> some very NOT ad hominem anti-Chaplin arguments made by Ron Rosenbaum that
> kind of bolster both D.'s and V.'s objections to both the man and artist,
> and any true movie lover will tell you that Buster Keaton is the better
man
> than Chaplin in every way but...never mind. D.'s bloodline does not
> constitute any automatic tyranny but does carry an authority of sorts. How
> people on this list respond to it is their business. But to kick and
scream
> and have a tantrum and say that Vladimir Nabokov's son has no place in
this
> group is to merely be petulant in the worst way. And it's funny to recall
> that person in the Pynchon group observing, not so sanguinely, that the
> moderator of this group doesn't allow any flames. I suppose that precludes
> me from suggesting that somebody poke Nat Selleck's fontanel.
>
> Glenn Kenny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Barton Johnson
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Sent: 7/20/2003 4:58 PM
> Subject: Fw: Dmitri's comments
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nat Selleck" <selleck@OPERAMAIL.COM>
> >
> > Could you please post this to the list?
> >
> > Dmitri's tyranny over this list must end. Need we endure his bullying
> > and ad hominem attacks simply out of deference to his bloodline?
> > This goes beyond taking offense at his vulgar language. His tantrums
> > have led, directly or indirectly, to the abrupt cessation of at least
> two
> > interesting lines of scholarly exchange over communism and Charlie
> > Chaplin, Nabokov and homosexuality. If you think that this is
> > acceptable in these cases, how about the slippery slope leading to
> > the ad hominem slamming of the contents of a simple bibliographic
> > posting?
> >
> > Nat Selleck