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AS: I¹ve just posted the actual legal report from the Times. It¹s only a
teeny-weeny bit confusing until you note the difference between ³consent² in
the everyday sense of ³agreement,² and ³[legal] consent² as used in the
legal phrase ³age of consent.² The girl stated she was a willing partner.
The court accepted her statement it is a matter of fact that she was
³fully consenting² in the everyday sense. If you conflate the two meanings
of ³consent² you get into semantic knots and contradictions. ³She consented
without consenting!² This requires disambiguation along the lines ³She
physically consented but being under-age could not legally consent.²
Skb
On 05/09/2008 19:24, "Anthony Stadlen" <STADLEN@AOL.COM> wrote:
> In a message dated 05/09/2008 17:57:32 GMT Standard Time, skb@BOOTLE.BIZ
> writes:
>> The latter lost his appeal against a jail-sentence in spite of the judges
>> AGREEING that the girl was, as it were, the ³prime mover² and fully
>> consenting.
> This is a little confusing. If the girl is under the "age of consent", which
> she clearly was, then she cannot legally "consent", even if she initiates.
> That's why it is called the age of consent. That's the legal difference
> between children and adults.
>
> Anthony Stadlen
>
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teeny-weeny bit confusing until you note the difference between ³consent² in
the everyday sense of ³agreement,² and ³[legal] consent² as used in the
legal phrase ³age of consent.² The girl stated she was a willing partner.
The court accepted her statement it is a matter of fact that she was
³fully consenting² in the everyday sense. If you conflate the two meanings
of ³consent² you get into semantic knots and contradictions. ³She consented
without consenting!² This requires disambiguation along the lines ³She
physically consented but being under-age could not legally consent.²
Skb
On 05/09/2008 19:24, "Anthony Stadlen" <STADLEN@AOL.COM> wrote:
> In a message dated 05/09/2008 17:57:32 GMT Standard Time, skb@BOOTLE.BIZ
> writes:
>> The latter lost his appeal against a jail-sentence in spite of the judges
>> AGREEING that the girl was, as it were, the ³prime mover² and fully
>> consenting.
> This is a little confusing. If the girl is under the "age of consent", which
> she clearly was, then she cannot legally "consent", even if she initiates.
> That's why it is called the age of consent. That's the legal difference
> between children and adults.
>
> Anthony Stadlen
>
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