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Re: RES: [NABOKV-L] SKB re: Allan Ginsburg in PF
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An "anagram purist" might also point out that "Lenin's grab lag" isn't quite
correct from "Allen Ginsberg."
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, R S Gwynn <Rsgwynn1@cs.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 8/25/2010 5:54:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
> jansy@AETERN.US writes:
>
>
> *RSGwynn *[*to Gary and Stan*] :”Of course it could be *Lenin's gal garb *if
> we impute cross-dressing (why not?) to Kinbote.If you're looking for poets
> as models for CK, try Pound…Hetero, but kinky./ In my essay in the
> forthcoming *PF* book from Gingko, I do mention Lowell as a possible
> influence on VN's conception of JS's poem, mainly because Lowell's most
> recent book at the time of *PF*'s action was *The Mills of the Kavanaughs*,
> much of which is in couplets…If VN was going to set his sights on a
> contemporary poet as one worthy of competing with, RL would have been at the
> top of the heap…
>
>
>
> *JM*: You are indicating this new “Pale Fire Solus,” ie where there’s *
> no* Kinbote recreating Shade. Do you consider, then, that this independent
> production, by Nabokov now, would explicitly shape itself following any
> contemporary poet, or its conception result from a poetic competition,
> instead of …what would be the term…traditional poetry?
>
>
>
> I don't think there's much doubt that VN was intensely competitive, if
> that's what you mean. Lowell's *Mills* is about the only thing in
> then-comtemporary poetry that's anything like "PF"--long narrative poems in
> rhymed pentameters.
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correct from "Allen Ginsberg."
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, R S Gwynn <Rsgwynn1@cs.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 8/25/2010 5:54:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
> jansy@AETERN.US writes:
>
>
> *RSGwynn *[*to Gary and Stan*] :”Of course it could be *Lenin's gal garb *if
> we impute cross-dressing (why not?) to Kinbote.If you're looking for poets
> as models for CK, try Pound…Hetero, but kinky./ In my essay in the
> forthcoming *PF* book from Gingko, I do mention Lowell as a possible
> influence on VN's conception of JS's poem, mainly because Lowell's most
> recent book at the time of *PF*'s action was *The Mills of the Kavanaughs*,
> much of which is in couplets…If VN was going to set his sights on a
> contemporary poet as one worthy of competing with, RL would have been at the
> top of the heap…
>
>
>
> *JM*: You are indicating this new “Pale Fire Solus,” ie where there’s *
> no* Kinbote recreating Shade. Do you consider, then, that this independent
> production, by Nabokov now, would explicitly shape itself following any
> contemporary poet, or its conception result from a poetic competition,
> instead of …what would be the term…traditional poetry?
>
>
>
> I don't think there's much doubt that VN was intensely competitive, if
> that's what you mean. Lowell's *Mills* is about the only thing in
> then-comtemporary poetry that's anything like "PF"--long narrative poems in
> rhymed pentameters.
> Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
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>
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