Steve: O HOWL! I anagrammed validly, ALLAN GINSBERG = LENIN’S GRAB LAG, following Gary Lipon’s spelling of AG’s first-name. I quote GL’s query:
Has anyone considered Allan Ginsberg as a model for Kinbote?
That’s WHOM I was considering, er literally not to say playfully. You may say that Allan Ginsberg is not a POET; but I say NEITHER was Allen Ginsberg (even though he was kind to us Liverpool Poets in the 1960s). And NEITHER, for what it’s worth, WAS KINBOTE!
To continue the game, what about: ALLEN GINSBERG = NELLIE’S RGB NAG?
(Nellie = slang for male queer; RGB = red/green/blue, prominent PF Zemblan colours + TV cathode trio; Nag = puzzle + VN’s preferred word of horse in EO translation.)
SKB
On 25/08/2010 18:04, "Steve Norquist" <stevenorquist@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
An "anagram purist" might also point out that "Lenin's grab lag" isn't quite correct from "Allen Ginsberg."
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, R S Gwynn <Rsgwynn1@cs.com> wrote:
In a message dated 8/25/2010 5:54:55 AM Central Daylight Time, jansy@AETERN.US writes:
RSGwynn [to Gary and Stan] :”Of course it could be Lenin's gal garb if we impute cross-dressing (why not?) to Kinbote.If you're looking for poets as models for CK, try Pound…Hetero, but kinky./ In my essay in the forthcoming PF book from Gingko, I do mention Lowell as a possible influence on VN's conception of JS's poem, mainly because Lowell's most recent book at the time of PF's action was The Mills of the Kavanaughs, much of which is in couplets…If VN was going to set his sights on a contemporary poet as one worthy of competing with, RL would have been at the top of the heap…
JM: You are indicating this new “Pale Fire Solus,” ie where there’s no Kinbote recreating Shade. Do you consider, then, that this independent production, by Nabokov now, would explicitly shape itself following any contemporary poet, or its conception result from a poetic competition, instead of …what would be the term…traditional poetry?
I don't think there's much doubt that VN was intensely competitive, if that's what you mean. Lowell's Mills is about the only thing in then-comtemporary poetry that's anything like "PF"--long narrative poems in rhymed pentameters.
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