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TALKING WITH TOM CARSON
Seven Castaways In Search of an Author
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale of a young mental patient
reimagining the 20th century
By Liza Featherstone
Liza
Featherstone is the author of "Students Against Sweatshops: The Making of a
Movement."
January 5, 2003'The best I
would claim for this book," says Tom Carson about his new novel, "Gilligan's
Wake" (Picador, $25), "at times, if I were unusually cocky about it, is
'kindergarten Nabokov.'" He immediately seems embarrassed about having made this
remark, as if he hadn't packed in quite enough disclaimers. "Compared to the
most minor Nabokov novel, my book is piffle!"
We're talking at the
Washington Square Hotel about Carson's dark, hilarious and inventively weird
novel, which is told from the point of view of the seven "Gilligan's Island"
protagonists, whose lives intersect with such 20th century American cultural
icons as Alger Hiss, Bob Dole, the H-bomb and "The Great Gatsby's" Daisy
Buchanan (genteel as ever, if also a smack-shooting single mom and a lesbian).
All are dreamed into being by a delusional shadow narrator, a young mental
patient who thinks he's Maynard Krebs, a character on '60s sitcom "Dobie
Gillis," who was also played by "Gilligan" star Bob Denver.
Nabokov's
influence on "Gilligan's Wake" is evident. Like the Russian emigre, Carson is a
fascinated outsider to American popular culture. His father was in the U.S.
foreign service, and the family lived abroad (first in West Africa and then in
West Berlin) until Carson was 12. "In Africa there was no TV at all," he
recalls. "I don't think there were even telephones. And in Berlin, the only TV
[I remember] were these terrible East German spy movies where Americans were the
villains, which was kind of entertaining."
Returning to the United States
in 1968, Carson quickly made up for lost time. "If [American pop culture] hasn't
been part of your everyday experience, your family gets shipped back to the
States, and all of a sudden you're plunged into it - it just makes you a keener
student of what's going on. You're trying to catch up with all your new
schoolmates. They've known all this since the day of their birth, and you're
frantic and just scrambling. 'Leave It to Beaver' - should I know about
that?"
Carson, who now writes a column for Esquire on TV and film, has
been having a love affair with American pop culture ever since, one that's
evident in the new novel. His journalism career began as a rock critic for The
Village Voice in 1977, "a great year to be a rock critic. That was when punk was
just exploding. That was what I was interested in, that was what I wanted to
write about. For someone like me, punk made perfect sense." Punk, he explains,
affects "a sort of cartoon distance, and that turns out to be a way of
expressing intensity... it turns out the things you care about the most are also
things that you can't help feeling alienated from. So you express them in
grotesque double-edged ways. And for someone who had that kind of betwixt and
between relationship to American culture anyhow - the first time I heard the
Ramones, I thought, 'Well, this makes perfect sense!'"
Carson's first
novel, "Twisted Kicks," was published in 1981 by Entwhistle Books. That small
press is no longer in business, but the individual who published the book is
still hawking it on Amazon.com, where one customer reviewer calls it "no less
than the greatest novel of our (or anyone's) time," while another tends to take
Carson's own, much dimmer view. "I'm trying to get him to stop - I don't want
the book out there," Carson says. "It's a very immature, overwrought kind of
book about teenage alienation in the suburbs. [Novelist] Madison Smartt Bell...
was kind enough to say that it was 'Less Than Zero' ahead of 'Less Than Zero.'
And I'm not sure how big a recommendation that really is." He laughs. "It's a
book written without any perspective that takes itself terribly seriously. All
this anguish! Because as far as I was concerned, if people weren't anguished" -
here a self-mocking, melodramatic pause - "they weren't living."
Asked
about the evolution of "Gilligan's Wake," Carson explains: "I had spent years
trying to work on a long, complicated, serious novel that was about growing up
abroad during the Cold War.... I couldn't make it work worth a damn. Because I
found out that I wasn't that interested in just relaying my experiences. I kept
wanting to veer off into grotesque fantasies and goofy extrapolations, but I
couldn't find a structure that would justify doing all that. And then
"Gilligan's Wake" popped into my head. I mean, literally the title popped into
my head... and then I had a concept that would let me unleash that whole vein of
fantasy and absurdity."
Asked about the challenge of breathing life into
such stereotypical, familiar characters, he at first disavows any anxieties: "I
wasn't smart enough to hesitate," he said with a laugh. Later he admits: "I
liked the nerviness of it. It felt like a bit of a dare. And I think that sort
of got me going."